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Anyone have an idea what the HP and torque limitations are for the Quadrasteer rearend? The stock engine in the Suburban/Yukon XL puts out 335hp/300lb.-ft. or so. Gotta be able to supercharge that...has to be a cushion.
I've seen pictures of a D-Max QS pick-up at SEMA, and a supercharged 8.1L Yukon XL (also at SEMA), but I have no idea what was reliable. Kevin Lavigne would know but he's MIA. Anyone else? -P. 2005 GMC Yukon XL 2500 SLT Quadrasteer 4x4, 1SD Package, 3.73s, U59 Silver Birch Metallic 6.6L LBZ Duramax Conversion Allison 1000 6-speed tranny with SunCoast/McRat 1057 Converter and Transgo Jr. upgrade Mike L. LBZ Tranny Cooler and Suncoast Trans Brace Dual 145-Amp Alternators and Dual Optima Yellow Tops Merchant Auto Transfer Case Pump Upgrade MBRP Full T304 Front Pipe, with PowerTube, and 4" Single Rear Exhaust New-style Volant Intake BD Exhaust Manifold Fumoto Valve HIR Headlight Bulbs Bilstein HD Shocks Cognito Pitman and Idler Arm Supports BFG/Lord Velvet Ride Shackles Escalade Handles, 3rd Brake Light, and Vents Astrostart Remote Starter K5LA Locomotive Horn and Dual Grover Stuttertone Horns ViAir Compressor and 8-Gal tank with central air line Escalade LUX Navigation Radio Upgrade with LUX Amp and back-up camera Winter Shoes: LT245/75-R16 E-Load Bridgestone Revos on OEM PYO's Summer Shoes: LT285/60-HR18 Michelin Pilot LTX on Weld Evo Velociti 8 HD 18x8.5 More to come... ...slightly used gasser parts for sale! |
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Prophet,
I don't have an answer to your question but do have a question of you. In your sig you have "Accel Extreme 900 wires (needed with the headers)" Why do you need those wires for the headers? I have the same setup on headers and cat back you have with no apparant problems. Have a good day. Bill 2005 Silverado 1500 LS 4x4 with QS Wester's tune 89/93 5.3L engine 180 Thermostat Matched fuel injectors from Westers Airaid intake Dynatech Supermaxx headers and cats Corsa cat-back side exit dual exhaust 3.73 rear end gear |
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The rear ends in our trucks are very strong. I.m at 500 RWHP and have had no problems, The rears ar Dana 60s, also our transfer case is rated at 2300 pound of torque
Mark 2004 Sierra Denali ----- 2/4 drop LSX 438 TWIN TURBO 1000 HP & 1000 ft lbs Torque or break trying |
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Apparently, GM changed their ignition layout on the LS-1 engine sometime around 2005. The headers are a kit intended for multiple applications. The headers will fit on many of the trucks and do fit on my 6.0L LS-1. However, the coil-on-head arrangement has the wires running from the head, straight down to a plug located underneath the headers. Most of the OEM wires fit fine, with adequate clearance. However, the two rear cylinders on the driver's side (I believe cylinders 5 & 7) have a bend in the header tubing that interferes with the OEM wires routing, causing a contact issue. They are too short. Thus, the headers burned through the OEM wires on 5 & 7 causing a misfire in those cylinders. I replaced the 7.0mm OEM wires with the 8.0mm Accel Extreme 9000 wires, universal kit # 9003 (app. for HD trucks, towing, and headers/high temp.) and routed them around the offending pipes. I called Dynatech's tech line and the guy, who I believe is the owner, confirmed my situation and that the replacement wires were the appropriate solution. He does not cover the issue in the installation instructions. Having the 5.3L I guess you didn't have the exact same layout as I did. I put that comment in my truck's description so that other 6.0L modders might be forewarned. -P. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Prophet, 2005 GMC Yukon XL 2500 SLT Quadrasteer 4x4, 1SD Package, 3.73s, U59 Silver Birch Metallic 6.6L LBZ Duramax Conversion Allison 1000 6-speed tranny with SunCoast/McRat 1057 Converter and Transgo Jr. upgrade Mike L. LBZ Tranny Cooler and Suncoast Trans Brace Dual 145-Amp Alternators and Dual Optima Yellow Tops Merchant Auto Transfer Case Pump Upgrade MBRP Full T304 Front Pipe, with PowerTube, and 4" Single Rear Exhaust New-style Volant Intake BD Exhaust Manifold Fumoto Valve HIR Headlight Bulbs Bilstein HD Shocks Cognito Pitman and Idler Arm Supports BFG/Lord Velvet Ride Shackles Escalade Handles, 3rd Brake Light, and Vents Astrostart Remote Starter K5LA Locomotive Horn and Dual Grover Stuttertone Horns ViAir Compressor and 8-Gal tank with central air line Escalade LUX Navigation Radio Upgrade with LUX Amp and back-up camera Winter Shoes: LT245/75-R16 E-Load Bridgestone Revos on OEM PYO's Summer Shoes: LT285/60-HR18 Michelin Pilot LTX on Weld Evo Velociti 8 HD 18x8.5 More to come... ...slightly used gasser parts for sale! |
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Prophet,
The 5.3's have the same problem. What I find interesting is that in the directions that came with my set it was mentioned and a solution was even suggested. What I ended up doing was using 2 zip ties and move the wires so they do not touch the headers. Thanks for the info and have a nice day. Bill 2005 Silverado 1500 LS 4x4 with QS Wester's tune 89/93 5.3L engine 180 Thermostat Matched fuel injectors from Westers Airaid intake Dynatech Supermaxx headers and cats Corsa cat-back side exit dual exhaust 3.73 rear end gear |
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Did that, done that...
burned through until the cylinders misfired. -P. 2005 GMC Yukon XL 2500 SLT Quadrasteer 4x4, 1SD Package, 3.73s, U59 Silver Birch Metallic 6.6L LBZ Duramax Conversion Allison 1000 6-speed tranny with SunCoast/McRat 1057 Converter and Transgo Jr. upgrade Mike L. LBZ Tranny Cooler and Suncoast Trans Brace Dual 145-Amp Alternators and Dual Optima Yellow Tops Merchant Auto Transfer Case Pump Upgrade MBRP Full T304 Front Pipe, with PowerTube, and 4" Single Rear Exhaust New-style Volant Intake BD Exhaust Manifold Fumoto Valve HIR Headlight Bulbs Bilstein HD Shocks Cognito Pitman and Idler Arm Supports BFG/Lord Velvet Ride Shackles Escalade Handles, 3rd Brake Light, and Vents Astrostart Remote Starter K5LA Locomotive Horn and Dual Grover Stuttertone Horns ViAir Compressor and 8-Gal tank with central air line Escalade LUX Navigation Radio Upgrade with LUX Amp and back-up camera Winter Shoes: LT245/75-R16 E-Load Bridgestone Revos on OEM PYO's Summer Shoes: LT285/60-HR18 Michelin Pilot LTX on Weld Evo Velociti 8 HD 18x8.5 More to come... ...slightly used gasser parts for sale! |
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500 RWHP? What kind of torque are you putting down? I have to believe that torque is the issue mainly because I've heard that the size of the ring gear is on the small side. -P. 2005 GMC Yukon XL 2500 SLT Quadrasteer 4x4, 1SD Package, 3.73s, U59 Silver Birch Metallic 6.6L LBZ Duramax Conversion Allison 1000 6-speed tranny with SunCoast/McRat 1057 Converter and Transgo Jr. upgrade Mike L. LBZ Tranny Cooler and Suncoast Trans Brace Dual 145-Amp Alternators and Dual Optima Yellow Tops Merchant Auto Transfer Case Pump Upgrade MBRP Full T304 Front Pipe, with PowerTube, and 4" Single Rear Exhaust New-style Volant Intake BD Exhaust Manifold Fumoto Valve HIR Headlight Bulbs Bilstein HD Shocks Cognito Pitman and Idler Arm Supports BFG/Lord Velvet Ride Shackles Escalade Handles, 3rd Brake Light, and Vents Astrostart Remote Starter K5LA Locomotive Horn and Dual Grover Stuttertone Horns ViAir Compressor and 8-Gal tank with central air line Escalade LUX Navigation Radio Upgrade with LUX Amp and back-up camera Winter Shoes: LT245/75-R16 E-Load Bridgestone Revos on OEM PYO's Summer Shoes: LT285/60-HR18 Michelin Pilot LTX on Weld Evo Velociti 8 HD 18x8.5 More to come... ...slightly used gasser parts for sale! |
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I will know in a couple of weeks, I am going to get it dyno'd before heading to the Denalifest in Dallas Texas
Mark 2004 Sierra Denali ----- 2/4 drop LSX 438 TWIN TURBO 1000 HP & 1000 ft lbs Torque or break trying |
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Hmmm. It would be great to see if Dana Corp. has recommended limits for these rearends when using standard Dana gears (which Dana Corp. often rates at continual, and maximum instantaneous hp and torque). Please keep us posted on your dyno findings. You've put more into developing your engine than anyone I've seen thus far on this list. Do you have any hp/tq goals? -P. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Prophet, 2005 GMC Yukon XL 2500 SLT Quadrasteer 4x4, 1SD Package, 3.73s, U59 Silver Birch Metallic 6.6L LBZ Duramax Conversion Allison 1000 6-speed tranny with SunCoast/McRat 1057 Converter and Transgo Jr. upgrade Mike L. LBZ Tranny Cooler and Suncoast Trans Brace Dual 145-Amp Alternators and Dual Optima Yellow Tops Merchant Auto Transfer Case Pump Upgrade MBRP Full T304 Front Pipe, with PowerTube, and 4" Single Rear Exhaust New-style Volant Intake BD Exhaust Manifold Fumoto Valve HIR Headlight Bulbs Bilstein HD Shocks Cognito Pitman and Idler Arm Supports BFG/Lord Velvet Ride Shackles Escalade Handles, 3rd Brake Light, and Vents Astrostart Remote Starter K5LA Locomotive Horn and Dual Grover Stuttertone Horns ViAir Compressor and 8-Gal tank with central air line Escalade LUX Navigation Radio Upgrade with LUX Amp and back-up camera Winter Shoes: LT245/75-R16 E-Load Bridgestone Revos on OEM PYO's Summer Shoes: LT285/60-HR18 Michelin Pilot LTX on Weld Evo Velociti 8 HD 18x8.5 More to come... ...slightly used gasser parts for sale! |
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Peter,
I'll bet the limiting factor for torque input to our differentials has more to do with the type of limited slip that is used in the Quadrasteers, rather than the ring and pinion. Just my 'pinion! ___________________ |
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I agree. The 426 Hemi Mopars from the early 70's, such as the Cuda, came with a Dana 60. The weak link may be the clutch limited slip. Replace the limited slip, and your bullit proof.
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I'd want to research the choice Delphi made regarding that limited slip first... there seems to be a reason why that particular type of LS was used that is directly related to on road driveability with a steerable rear axle.
Other limited slip designs that may be considered more bullet proof may not have the smooth roadability that the one Delphi engineers selected has. ___________________ |
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Just my 'pinion! Haha, now that's some funny stuff. Former owner of: 2004 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 SS facia Escalade Door Handles Painted Mirrors 20" Weld Velocitti 8 Wheels 305-50-20 Michelin Cross Terrains Wester's 91 Hot Tune Corsa Sport Exhaust with Twin 4.0 Pro Series Exhaust Tip ----------------------------------------- Replaced with: 2007 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew Cab Same Weld Velociti 8 Wheels w/ Michelin 305-50-20 Cross Terrains Come on in, the door's always open - the closer's busted. |
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2004 sd, any updates?
I am wondering what to expect out of my stock rear-end (limited slip) also. ----- 2003 1500HD CCSB Quadrasteer Procharger (8psi D1SC & 3-core IC), HPTuners |
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